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Do Democrats want to win?  This is DR, on the CBS Radio Network, this week from the Democratic national convention in Denver.

I can tell you it was easier to get into the Green Zone in Baghdad than the Pepsi Center yesterday; cops were worried that anti-war marchers would try to storm the fence, so as we all baked in the sun, I stopped to chat with a young protestor from Florida handing out flyers headlined "Stop fantasizing, Obama is no different than McCain."

It said that Obama like McCain immediately faulted Russia for the Georgian invasion.

It says Obama lke McCain would keep a residual force in Iraq after 2010.

It says Obama voted for a fence along the Mexican border, voted for the 2005 energy bill and its oil subsidies, supports expanding the army -- on and on, and so I asked him... you mean, as a young Democrat, who thinks Obama is too conservative, you would rather have McCain?

No he said, I probably just won't vote.

Which mean, I told him, that if enough people do that, you'll get McCain.  Doesn't matter, he said, it's the principle; the parties don't give us a real choice anyway -- and then he was off into how America needs a new kind of politics, even though he plans to undermine the candidate running on just that promise.

Between angry young folks on the left, and angry Hillary supporters claiming their candidate was disrespected, the Democratic party finds itself in a familiar position:  it's like a marching band where everyone wants to wear a different uniform.  But you still have to march in step and play off the same page. 

If it's a new kind of politics these activists want, they'll have to win first.   And that... still requires the old kind of politics.

Now this.

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Obama doesn't just have a 

Oh Barack, you promised a new kind of politics

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Democrats have to decide whether to self destruct.

The formal roll call wednesday.

Hillary wil release delegates for bARACK oBAMA.  But she also wanted a roll call.

66% will support obama, but 27% will vote for McCain.  It was on a weekend; they'll come around, etc.

I talked to a couple of young demonstrators from Floria who thingObama s vote to compromkise on FISA court shows he doesn't care about free speech.

Felt dems punished his state.

Axelrod, David, senior adviser to the Obama campaign
LENGTH: 09
LEAD: Axelrod disputes claim that Sen. Clinton was not part of the dicussions about an Obama running mate. 
OUTCUE: about it 

John McCain's campaign hit back at Madonna on Sunday after the pop diva kicked off her world tour with a concert that bracketed the US presidential candidate with Adolf Hitler. 
McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds angrily condemned the segment of Madonna's concert in Cardiff on Saturday that appeared to draw a comparison between McCain, Hitler and Zimbabwean strongman Robert Mugabe. 
"The comparisons are outrageous, unacceptable and crudely divisive all at the same time," Bounds said in a statement reported by Fox News. 
"It clearly shows that when it comes to supporting Barack Obama, his fellow worldwide celebrities refuse to consider any smear or attack off limits." 
Madonna's apparent swipe at McCain came during a performance of the song "Get Stupid", when the Republican contender's image was flashed up alongside images of destruction and global warming as well as Hitler and Mugabe. 
Towards the end of the song, pictures of Beatles star John Lennon, former US vice-president Al Gore, Indian Mahatma Gandhi and McCain's Democrat rival Barack Obama appeared. 
Hillary got millions of vote -- but isn't on ticket.

He needs to pick her as secretary of state.